100 Hubs: Success or Failure?

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By 2patricias

 

This is our 101st ‘official hub’.  It is customary at this point to reflect on lessons that have been learnt from HubPages. 

In order to determine whether an endeavour has been a success or a failure, it is necessary to identify what the objectives were when starting out on the project, and try to decide whether or not they have been achieved.

Why we joined HubPages

 

In 2007 we (that’s Tricia and me, Pat) decided to set up our own website.  We had in mind an online magazine for women that would be different from printed magazines.  We wanted our website to be free, and to be based on ‘real life’, rather than focus on celebrities or feature clothes that only the rich could afford.

When we came up with this idea, neither of us had any technical knowledge nor had we much experience at writing.  We decided that Tricia would figure out how to set up a website, and Pat would research topics to include on the website.

After thought and research, we named our website Look Lovely, and went officially launched the site on 1st January 2008.

As part of her research, Tricia determined that we must establish a presence on the internet.   She found HubPages, and joined using the name 2Patricias.

We added a page to the website called about the 2Patricias on the basis that the search engines might find us through the link with HubPages.

It took us a while to get cooking

Cooking with gas (photo by Pat)
Cooking with gas (photo by Pat)

Early Lessons from HubPages

After joining HubPages we took a few weeks to decide what to do with it.  Our first idea was to recycle articles that we had used on Look Lovely.

At that time we thought that after we had published a feature on our website, we should remove it after a few weeks or the site would become stale.

Rather than delete the pages, we republished them as hubs.

We quickly learned that our website articles were too short to succeed as hubs.  We knew that the average time on our site was less than a minute, and were working on the basis that our viewers had a very limited attention span.

We learned that a successful Hub has more detail and depth than a feature that forms part of the page on a website.

One of our very first hubs was called something like “How to Walk Safely”.  It consisted of little more than advice to carry a personal alarm when walking along.  We tried adding photos and links but it had so few views that we removed it.

Advice from other Hubbers helped us to improve.  Our first attempt at writing a Hub on Chichester was flagged (down) by The Indexer who kindly explained that the Hub was too short.  I then added more text, links and photos, and he responded with a positive comment.  This Hub continues to attract a reasonable number of views every week.

What we found out about feet

 We retain a  hub about pedicures: Pretty Feet, Prepare to Show them Off.  It you look at this hub you will not see much, as we have removed all the photos, and most of the content.  We keep it ‘live’ through a sort of morbid curiosity.

Some days this has the highest score of any of our hubs, and most days it has the highest number of views.  Overall, it has received far and away the most views.

We have come to the conclusion that this interest is not from people who are interested in pedicures.   We guess that there are people out there with a strange fascination with feet. Maybe there is a whole genre of foot porn – yuck.

Strangely, we get even more views of this hub on or around holidays.  I think we had 40 views on Christmas Eve.  Could this be something to do with stress?

Hub Scores fluctuate from day to day

In the early days we wondered how the score for each Hub was calculated. We are still mystified. Our Hub about the Sleeper Train to Scotland has reached the maximum score of 100; other days it sinks to the mid-80s.

We think that the score reflects the number of views, and how quickly the views accumulate. Possibly it also includes length, links, photos etc. Some days we think it is based on our Star Signs.

Pay Attention to New Features

One of the things we like about HubPages is that from time to time there are new features that can be added to improve Hubs. 

In the early days Tricia wrote a quiz hub that was called something like “Are you a Couch Potato?”  It didn’t work terribly well, so we unpublished it.

Later HubPages added the Poll capsule (or course it could have been there and we didn’t notice).  We used it to put together Women vs. Men in the Kitchen. We count this as one of our successful hubs because it attracted a good number of comments, it continues to receive views and it appears to entertain people.

We have added maps to some of our hubs using the Google maps capsule. Recently we discovered the ‘groups’ tool on the My Account page, and have been using it to make it easier for viewers to navigate from one hub to another.

In our opinion making use of the capsules and tools whenever appropriate can improve statistics.

Write about subjects that interest you

 

Our most successful hubs have been based on subjects that we are close to our hearts.  Tricia is a keen sailor (Pat doesn’t like leaving dry land) and wrote our hub about dinghy sailing.

This hub has a consistently high score, and gets views almost every day.  We have observed one odd trait: when the weather is bad we get more views.  Last month we had cold weather and heavy snow and the number of views for the hub shot up!

Reflect on your experiences

 We have published hubs on the lessons that we have learned from Hubs, looking at both success and failure.  Strangely, the hub on learning from failure has provoked more comments.

A high hub score does not equal a high income.

We write for pleasure, which is a good thing, as we do not earn much money.  Perhaps if we took more time over technicalities such as search engine optimisation we would do better.  In fact, we have one example of a hub gaining more views after we did some SEO work.   One of Pat’s Garden Diary hubs made reference to fence panels, and after some research we decided that we should include the words ‘fence’ and ‘panel’ in the title.  This is now one of the more successful garden hubs.

Publishing fiction on HubPages

Our most recent hubs have all been episodes of Pat’s novel “Respect for the King”. We never expected that we would make any money by publishing here, but there has been a very encouraging volume of constructive comment.

We have now written hub on what we have learned about fiction on HubPages.

Our verdict

Overall, we think that we have succeeded in achieving the goals we set ourselves when we joined HubPages.  This is in large part due to the support of fellow Hubbers, so thank you all very much.

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Jeff May profile image

Jeff May Level 2 Commenter 16 months ago

Good insight on your 101st hub... and some good advice. Thanks.

dahoglund profile image

dahoglund Level 7 Commenter 16 months ago

I'm still trying to put it all together. I could use some computer courses I suppose. I am overwhelmed with some of the technology.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello Jeff,

Nice to hear from you - I've just got a copy of your book and will read it after the chaos of the holidays.

Happy New Year.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hi Dahoglund and Happy New Year,

I don't think there is a computer course that is a low enough level for me!

Some days I find it all too much.

Thanks for your comment.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 16 months ago

I just noticed that you linked to my cake hub, and I wanted to thank you for that! Also, I believe this hub has many great insights for people that are just getting started with Hubpages, or those who have been here for awhile, but are not exactly sure what to do with their presence here. I definitely rated this hub up!

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simeonvisser 16 months ago

Congratulations, 100 hubs is quite an achievement. There is no failure though since you succeeded in achieving your goals. If you want to earn more money then you can focus on that in 2011 :)

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2besure Level 5 Commenter 16 months ago

I didn't understand how waiting to publish you hub could really help your score. I always thought people who did those long, long hubs did it all at once. I didn't have the patience to do a 3,000 word hub. Now I know it can be done in installments.

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travelespresso 16 months ago

Congratulations on your 101st hub 2Patricias. That's a great achievement.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello Sweetie Pie and Simeon V,

Glad you are happy with the link to your cake hub SP. We really like the linking idea, and maybe one day we will write a whole hub about it. Trouble is, we have more ideas than we have time.

Yes, Simeon, maybe 2011 will be the year of money :)

P&T.

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GusTheRedneck Level 6 Commenter 16 months ago

2patricias - This is a good attempt at analyzing the HubPages scoring phenomena. Many hve tried that, and many have finished their attempt still wondering "what in the world..." You hit the nail right smack dab on its head when you wrote that a writer must have objectives to satisfy when writing, here or elsewhere. That works for everyone. Thanks for this interesting article.

Gus :-)))

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Triplet Mom Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

2Pats. I have enjoyed reading your hubs and congrats on your milestone. Unfortunately there is a whole foot fetish thing but I would like to think that there are other reasons why people are drawn to that hub!

Keep up the good work.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello 2BeSure,

We're not sure whether you really improve the score of a Hub by 'aging' it prior to publication. You will probably start with a higher score, but if the hub does not get many views the score will drop. Conversely, if you start with 50 (which we think is the usual opening score) and lots of people look at your hub in the first few days, then the score will quickly rise.

Hi Travel E. Thanks very much for leaving a comment.

Hiya Gus,

Glad you found the article interesting. Also pleased that you understand the scoring system as well as we do (ie its not understandable.)

Thanks for leaving a comment.

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MtShastaWriter 16 months ago

I just wanted to add that I enjoyed this hub. I am aiming for 200 hubs by January 1, 2012. :)

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Sally's Trove 16 months ago

Congrats on your 100 Hubs! And thanks so much for sharing your experiences and perceptions about writing on HubPages. It's so helpful to learn about others' learning and working processes. About Hub scoring, you are absolutely correct: it is based on star signs. :)

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello Mt S.W. Pleased that you enjoyed the hub. Good luck on your goal of 200 by next Jan. We might be up to 120 by then, who knows?

Hi Sally's Trove, The best part about HubPages are helpful and supportgive people like you! Thanks for your comment.

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agusfanani Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

Congratulation on your 101 hubs, that's an achievement. I myself have to make more efforts to reach that number. Thank you for sharing your experience.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello Agusfanani,

I really like your hubs. Don't be in a hurry to write loads, quality is more important than quantity.

Thanks for your comment.

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Johnny Parker 16 months ago

Congratulations, you Ladies are an inspiration. Keep up the good work.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hi Triplet Mom,

Thanks for the reasurance that some people really are intrested in pedicures and not that weird view of feet.

Hello Johnny P,

Thanks for your comment.

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Cheryl J. Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

Great information on your hubpage. I choose success.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hi Cheryl,

Nice of you to make that choice - thank you.

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tonymac04 16 months ago

Lots of learnings here, and you certainly have captured the attention of many people. I hope you do write that Hub about writing fictio here - I'm sure it would help me as I struggle a bit with it.

Thanks for sharing the insights.

Love and peace

Tony

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Truckstop Sally Level 6 Commenter 16 months ago

Thanks for the info and positive outlook. Lots of feedback and fun can be had here!!

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Amanda Severn Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

Congratulations on reaching over 100 hubs, and also on your 100 hub score too. Your hubs are always well written and easy to read. Like you ladies, I'm constantly surprised by what attracts traffic, and what doesn't. It certainly sounds as though there's plenty of room on the net for more articles about 'pretty feet' and 'fence panels', but who would have guessed?

CollB 16 months ago

A really nice hub and the tips and advice are useful!

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hello TonyMac,

Thanks for the encouragement to write a hub about writing fiction for Hubpages!

Hi T.Sally,

Anyone trying to achieve goals (whatever they are) needs to maintain a positive outlook.

Thank you both for your comments.

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2patricias Hub Author 16 months ago

Hi Amanda,

Our stars must have been in the right alignment the day we had the 100 score. It's always nice, but we don't know how to get that high every day.

Thanks for your comment.

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Peggy W Level 8 Commenter 15 months ago

Who knew that fence panels and pretty feet could garnish that many viewers and comments! Haha! Happy to hear that you regard Hubpages as a vehicle to your success. I agree with you that writing about things of which you know and/or like makes a difference. Here's to more success! Rating this useful. Thanks!

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2patricias Hub Author 15 months ago

Hello Peggy W,

Thanks for your comment and rating.You are a very good writer so a compliment from you makes me feel happy.

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sarclair 15 months ago

Thanks for the great hub! I am wondering how fiction might do you.

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2patricias Hub Author 15 months ago

Hello Sarclair,

Thanks for the compliment. We are publishing ficiton on HubPages - called "Respect for the King". I am thinking about writing a hub about what I have learned about fiction on HubPages.

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